Episode Details
Jay A Widower and Now Mindset Coach
Season 2 Episode 11
Jay A Widower and Now Mindset Coach
Episode Summary
Content warning: this episode talks about suicide and parental/spouse death.
“It's not the loss that causes your pain. It's your thoughts and feelings about it,” says Jay Deutsch, who joins the podcast, serendipitously, on the birthday of his late wife, Larissa. Her battles with depression ultimately lead to her taking her own life, leaving Jay a widower with two young children. He discusses the effects and consequences that grief had on himself and his children.
After an encounter with Larissa at her gravesite, and later with a woman he described as his “twin flame,” Jay underwent a major spiritual epiphany and set a brand new course in life. He began to learn about Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) and the power of using positive self-talk to change one’s thought patterns. Jay uses this and other techniques in his mission to help others deal with their grief, by way of his work as a mindset coach.
We all have the same power to heal ourselves by learning to change the way we think. Jay and Matt discuss the different schools of thought on the nature of depression, the benefits and limitations of grief counseling, and whether grief and happiness can coexist.
In this deeply honest episode of the Sloo Dad Podcast, Matt is joined by Jay Deutsch to share a powerful and difficult conversation about loss, grief, and healing after the death of a partner by suicide. With care and transparency, the episode explores the realities of postpartum depression, untreated mental illness, and the long road widowed parents face after traumatic loss.
Jay shares the story of his 26-year relationship with Larissa, the mother of his two children, and how postpartum depression, substance use, and gaps in mental health care slowly overtook their family. He reflects on the moments leading up to her death, the shock of becoming a solo parent overnight, and the immediate aftermath of navigating police investigations, child services, and overwhelming grief while trying to protect his children.
A central theme of the episode is how trauma and grief can become identity-defining if left unprocessed. Jay speaks openly about spending years numbing his pain through alcohol, avoidance, and anger, and how unresolved grief showed up as rage, jealousy, and self-destruction. He explains how traditional grief support spaces helped his children but ultimately kept him stuck, forcing him to confront the difference between processing grief and reliving it.
The conversation takes a pivotal turn when Jay describes a profound moment of emotional release years after Larissa’s death, which became the catalyst for real healing. From there, he shares how mindset work, neuroscience, meditation, and emotional regulation helped him shift from surviving to living. Jay explains why grief and happiness don’t exist at the same moment, how thoughts shape emotional reality, and why avoidance prolongs suffering.
Matt and Jay also discuss the impact of grief on children, emphasizing honesty, emotional modeling, and creating safe spaces for kids to express their feelings. Jay shares how hospice bereavement groups helped his son heal, how children process loss differently by age, and why hiding grief from kids can unintentionally increase their fear.
The episode also addresses misconceptions around “toxic positivity,” clarifying the difference between bypassing grief and doing the long, difficult work of healing. Jay explains that choosing happiness is not denial, but the result of years of confronting pain, rewriting limiting beliefs, and learning to regulate emotions rather than suppress them.
This episode is not about quick fixes or platitudes. It’s about trauma, accountability, forgiveness, and the slow rebuilding of a meaningful life after devastating loss. If you are a widower, solo parent, or someone affected by suicide, postpartum depression, or complicated grief, this conversation offers perspective, compassion, and hope without minimizing the depth of the pain.
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